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Post by mistirose on Mar 29, 2009 19:23:00 GMT -5
The first female is 2 years old. I finally gave up on getting a properly stacked full frontal shot since Bobby doesn't know how to stack a show dog and Feona was being less than cooperative. I simply asked them to walk towards me and stop. The second female is 3-4 years old and has never been shown. She appears as though she toes out but she does not. Because she's never been stacked and was uncomfortable with what was going on she was leaning in against Bobby while we were taking the photos. She actually does have an excellent front. So, Josh and anyone else that is reading the boards, please critique them and then if you would, compare them against each other. Best wishes, Misti
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Post by Lahistoria on Apr 1, 2009 15:30:58 GMT -5
I can't say there is anything about Feona that I don't like. She is put together pretty well. Ideally she could be a little shorter or a bit longer. But overall she's a nice dogo. I like a little more front angulation and she looks toe out, but I bet thats just a stacking issue.
As for Vida, the side shot makes her look a little shallow in the chest but again I think its a stacking issue. She has more the proportions I like, height width, length. One thing I would like different is a little more concave in the muzzle at the nose, but other than that I like her alot. I would put a thick male with Feona, maybe one that is a little overboard in thickness and you may get the desired outcome.
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Post by mistirose on Apr 1, 2009 20:07:25 GMT -5
Josh, You are right about Vida - she IS concave in the muzzle. I think it is her worst fault. Her bite isn't perfect - she is a bit undershot although her teeth meet and close completely her bottom teeth close in front of her top teeth. Her hair is also a bit thin. Her side shot does make her look shallow in the chest; however, she definitely isn't. She is very deep chested and in this photo I think it makes her look like she is a tall leggy dog and in fact she isn't. She is heavy boned, deep chested and weighs 90 lbs and she is lean and very heavily muscled. I think from the front photo where her head is turned to the left you can see how broad chested she actually is - she is proportionately deep in the heart girth as well and not a leggy female. Her eyes are wide set as well. Also, in the shot where her head is turned to the left I think you can see the depth to her skull and unfortunately the photos don't show the width to her jaw. This is my lack of expertise as a photographer and my husband's inability to stack a show dog. I wish I had been able to stack the dogs for your review but trust me he's worse with the camera! As far as Feona goes ... she's a very pretty, elegant Dogo. Her bite is not perfect - in fact her front teeth don't actually close there is a small gap there. I too feel she lacks angulation. For me, she lacks the bone, skull, depth of chest, and overall mass that Vida has; however, I weighed her at the clinic Monday - she weighs 78 lbs. Only 12 lbs difference between the two dogs and not a significant amount of difference in body condition. She is nearly identical in height to Vida. Just an overall total difference in body structure. Feona is nearly completely Del Tolkeyen bred. She is 2nd and 3rd generation linebred Pancho del Tolkeyen and Oriana del Tolkeyen. The 3rd generation on her pedigree she is linebred Baron de la Herencia. If you're interested I can send you a copy of her pedigree as an Adobe attachment. Best wishes, Misti
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Post by lahistoria on Apr 1, 2009 21:06:10 GMT -5
I know for sure Vida is every bit as impressive an animal as you say, I have seen and touched her. If you say the two are structurally the same height, than Feona is definately light boned. AS for the pedigree definately would love to see it.
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Post by Elysium on Jun 8, 2009 9:17:40 GMT -5
i like the second dog much more but i wont critique structure because bad posing will make a dog look off.
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Post by Oly on Oct 15, 2009 10:56:12 GMT -5
There is my baby--- I miss her a lot.
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