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Post by olydogo on Jan 26, 2010 18:34:42 GMT -5
Lets hear it---- how do you go about it? ;D ;D ;D ;D IF you have a combat dog like the Dogo eventually you will have to do this so lets hear it from those who have done it successfully.
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Post by lahistoriadogo on Jan 26, 2010 21:44:53 GMT -5
Depends on how many people are there to help you, lol.
FIRST: Make sure you and everyone helping is calm. If you are not calm things will escalate!
One person alone: Tie off the more aggressive dog, to something VERY STRONG. Break the dogs apart, either by break stick, or choke off with a collar, leash, neck tie, extension cord, twine(i guess use whatever is close). If you are too nervous to get close enough to break/choke( dogo owners should not have this problem, but if its a relative watching your pack) Tie the one dog off to something strong by wrapping a leash around the waist of the dog then hooking it to a fence, car, tree, whatever. Then tie the other dog the same way, and gently pull them apart. Keep tension, so that when they regrip(this may be quite a wait) they will be separated.
Now assess the damage, if necessary call a vet, or go to the vet.
If there are two people or more, wrap leashes around each dogs waist, and also have a leash around the neck. Choke them off!
When choking off always make sure the collar is right up behind the ears, this will save a lot of time and damage to each dog.
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Post by olydogo on Jan 27, 2010 7:29:41 GMT -5
---Sweet--- I do not like to tie around the waist especially bitches (not wrong at all I just don’t like it), BUT for someone afraid of getting bit its their best option.
I also prefer to brake the fight ALONE--- that way I know someone isn't going to panic and do something stupid--- My wife is VERY GOOD at it and she isn't a BIG lady and she also has RA on both her wrist (I say this just to let people know that you do not have to be very strong to brake a fight, you just MUST stay CALM , be CALCULATED and METHODICAL), so IF I need help she usually has it, BUT that's about it---
I HATE yelling and screaming while a fight is going on OR at any time for that fact--- not only does it ESCALATE the situation but it also PISSES ME OFF---- I HATE YELLING.
I will quote Josh on this to make sure it sinks in STAY CALM, STAY CALM--- even in the pit dogs of the pass it was not often a dog would die from bites he would die more of shock or wounds after words (Angel probable can adjust my comment if I am wrong) I have seen series wounds but NEVER life threatening.
SO based on that knowledge---
1. Always have at least TWO leads handy--- I have leads everywhere around the house--- I DO NOT use collars when my dogs are in the yard by the way.
2. IF I go on walks I also take minimum two extra leads.
3. When two of my dogs tangle up I let them on and just go walk and get my leads, they WILL NOT KILL EACH OTHER IN 5 MINUTES--- gives me a little time to calm down and reassess my situation---
3. I come up to the dogs and very carefully wrap one lead on one dogs neck (doesn’t matter which one) as Josh says I tie that dog to something strong--- by the way to make things a bit more clear since I said I do not use collars--- what I do it loop the clip end through the loop where you would normally hold the lead making something like a lasso--- then I do the same with the opposite dog and CHOKE THEM OFF, as you CHOKE them off I am pulling UP and AWAY from the other dog and (reference Josh's post on how to place the leads) Wahhhlaaahh fight broken----
4. No yelling, no screaming, no pots and pans, no water hose, no spray bottles--- THAT’S FOR LITTLE DOG, none combat type dogs--- not work for Dogos.
5. After the fight is broken I assess the dogs and take care of what needs to be taken care of.
6. I wash them down with an antibacterial soap and I tie them in front of each other as close ass possible and the minute one growls at the other they both get a beating of a life time---
I DESPISE DOG FIGHTS and will treat it with the harshest discipline I can mustard with out killing the dog of course---
There is a saying that goes like "you sleep with dogs you will get fleas" it can be changed to " IF you have multiple Dogos of the same gender eventually YOU WILL GET BIT" I got bit a year ago or so by one of my girls--- WHY??? Because I got complaisant I got careless, the two girls tangled up and instead of doing what I KNEW I need to do I tried something else--- eventually I had to turn back to what I always did, BUT not after I got bit--- LESSON??? STAY CALM, DO NOT GET COMPLAISANT, DO NOT BE CARELESS --------BE CAREFUL-------
ONE OTHER NOTE--- if there are children around LET THE DOGS FIGHT AND PUT THE BABY IN A SAFE PLACE FIRST AND BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE.
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Post by lahistoriadogo on Jan 28, 2010 10:18:13 GMT -5
I will have to add that last part in yellow to my "fight protocol".
I tell every puppy owner, that has other dogs, or every plans on getting another dog, that there is a possibility for a fight. When they have same sex dogs, my first question is.."What are you going to do after the two dogs fight? Can you keep them separate?" If the answers are I don't know, the are not eligible.
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Post by flightjunkie on Jan 31, 2010 20:14:59 GMT -5
Good information guys. Thank you!
Question: would you guys feel just as calm and confident if you had to brake up a fight with dogs that don't belong to you? Just wondering if the same rule applies.
Thanks, Frank
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Post by lahistoriadogo on Jan 31, 2010 22:04:51 GMT -5
Yeah I would feel comfortable with wrapping the leash around the waist. I think breed would make a big difference. If its a fighting dog breed, you shouldn't have much to worry about if you keep your hands out of the way. Shepherds though, they might bite you rather than the dogs, lol
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Post by olydogo on Feb 1, 2010 7:39:34 GMT -5
Yep---and the beat down would also still apply.
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Post by ladycazadores on Feb 1, 2010 17:53:21 GMT -5
Had to break up a fight between Sancho and a Great Dane/Curdog mix...Both dogs easily 100 pounds, and it was ME myself and I available to help break up the fight...I first tried pulling the dane out of Sanchos grip, NO DICE I was just wearing myself out...so I switched tactics and treated the situation like I would if Sancho were on a hog. I grabbed his collar, picked him up, and cut off his wind...when he let go, I was pretty certain the Dane was feeling enough pain to tuck tail and run...and HE DID...one Sancho let go, the dane made a bee line for his kennel, got in his house, and started licking his wounds. Both dogs got disciplined for their part in the fight. ANd then I went inside and hooked myself up to the nebulizer so I could breathe. LOL
Another fight...a well placed wooden shovel handle "love tap" often drives the point home if it's a moderate to mild tussle.
In other cases where I was alone to break up a fight, I'd carefully latcha leash to the dogs collar that is easiest to get to, then I'd secure the other end of the leash to a fence, tree, or whatever is handy, and then I'd decide if latching teh other ones collar is possible too, or if I should go for the tail, leg, loop around abdomen, whatever is handy to grab, and start backing up pulling the two apart.
We've used cattle prods with a high degree of success too...
and sometimes, good old fashioned "FEAR OF GOD" maneuvering has worked too...by this I mean, a gunshot, NOT AT the dogs, but at the ground...the sound is unmistakable, our dogs know what guns are, and even the most serious fight will stop at the sound of the boom...and then you have roughly 3-5 seconds to separate the dogs fighting, or they will go right back at it. (Obviously this is not possible in all areas, but here, it works GREAT!)
SOmetimes you gotta think outside the box...all of our dogs know fighting is NOT TOLERATED, so when the fight is broken up they know they are getting their butt beat for it...
Bravo and Loyal have a lil tiff going right now...Mike reminded them just yesterday that no one is allowed to carry on like that.
They are like kids, in respect to how they will test, if they get away with stuff, they'll keep doing it, or trying to...best to be consistent, and show them consequences for their actions, and you'll have a more harmonious pack in the long run for it.
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Post by catz on Feb 9, 2010 9:30:53 GMT -5
This is really good for me to know. I broke up a bitch fight and didn't have a clue what to do. Luckily it turned out better than it should have. Next time, you all have given me VERY good tips. Thanks!
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Post by rmvz on May 22, 2012 1:31:30 GMT -5
What do you do after the fight to discipline your dogo?
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Post by chico on Feb 27, 2013 5:38:08 GMT -5
i had two jeep pitbulls b4 my that wanted to kill each other and i had to break up many fights on my own and i found that dragging them to an open door so that 1 dog is on either side and pretend to slam the door on them every time they released their grip , long enough for me to close the door , as long as the back door was closed fight over p.s. i would never hurt my dogs or condone hitting them to break up a fight as it always ends up esculating things to a point where one dog or both are seriously hurt and ALWAYS STAY CALM
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Post by buddy1620 on Aug 21, 2016 6:19:18 GMT -5
I saw a man and his 15 year old son trying to break up their Mastiff and a bulldog. They were both panicking. The owner of the bulldog showed up and started panicking herself. Since I was the only one who was calm, after nothing else worked, I calmly sat and thought about the next best thing to do.
I told the man, grab the hell out of his (mastiffs) balls. He says 'is that gonna work?' I said I don't know.
Be grabbed the Mastiffs balls and he let go and the bulldog got freed.
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